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McDONNELL  F3H  Demon

 
     
  The story which didn't happen ... outside Atlantic Air Combat  
     
  See also : AAC Data Sheet
 
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INTRODUCTION

The F3H Banshee, and its competitor, the F4D Skyray, resulted from a late 1940s RFP issued by the Navy for a carrier based interceptor.  Incidentally, both served the US Navy and both will be present in AAC

QTY

<1962 >1962 AAC Name 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967
 

60

F3H1N

-

F3H1A

Demon

1955 1955                        
 

140

F3H2N

F-3C

F3H2N

Demon

1956 1964 1956 > > > > > 1962          
 

80

F3H2M

MF-3B

F3H2M

Demon

1957 1964   1957 > > > > > 1963        
 

239

F3H2

F-3B

F3H2B

Demon

1958 1964     1958 > > > > > 1964

As usual, the aircraft existed in several versions, but only the more capable F3H2/F-3B variant will be retained.  Incidentally, it saw the largest production run.  As a reference for "tuning" AAC radars specs, the following has been noted : "...The APG-51 was a formidable radar, and the F3H pilots could detect RB-66s in practice intercepts from over 300 km (162 nautical miles)..."

GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS

There are no significant differences between the F3H2 variants, except for the bomb load.   However, the respective capacity of the F3H2 various hardpoints has not been identified (yet...) to this date.

The MTOW in AAC
With AAC referring to a slightly different mass ratio for fuel and ammunition, weights are thus re-calculated the AAC way.  The respective pylon capacities involve a convenient cheat factor.

F3H Variants F3H1N
-
F3H2N
F-3C
F3H2M
MF-3B
F3H2
F-3B
F3H2B MTOW
Length 59'00" 59'00" 59'00" 59'00" 59'00"  
Span 35'04" 35'04" 35'04" 35'04" 35'04"  
Span folded ??? ??? ??? ??? MM  
Height 14'07" 14'07" 14'07" 14'07" 14'07"  
Weight: empty 18690 21287 lb 21287 lb 21287 lb 21287.lbs
Weight: CREW 1 1 1 1 1 200.lbs
Engine J40WE22 J71A2 J71A2 J71A2 J71A2  
Power 7500 lbf 10000 lbf 10000 lbf 10000 lbf 10000 lbf  
Power:extra 10900 lbf 14400 lbf 14400 lbf 14400 lbf 14400 lbf  
Speed: max 546.kn 622.kn 622.kn 622.kn 622.kn  
Speed: cruise         ???  
Speed: landing         ???  
Speed: stall         ???  
Take off run         ???  
Climb.rate (ft/min) 10900 ft/min 14350 ft/min 14350 ft/min 14350 ft/min 14350 ft/min  
Ceiling 44000 ft 42650 ft 42650 ft 42650 ft 42650 ft  
Fuel internal: 1506 USgal 1256 gal 1256 gal 1256 gal 1256 gal 1256 gal 9546.lbs
In-flight refueling retractable probe    
Gun:4M12 20mm (rpg) 4150 rpg 4150 rpg 4150 rpg 4150 rpg 4150 rpg 344.lbs
Radar AN/APG30 AN/APG51 AN/APG51 AN/APG51 AN/APG51  
AA Missiles Sidewinder AIM-9B  
AA Missiles Sparrow AIM-7C [Sparrow I]  
Weight: COMBAT 26085 lb 31145 lb 31145 lb 31145 lb   31377.lb
Maximum bomb capacity       [6000 lb] [6700 lb]  
Pylon: fuselage 2   2000 lb 2000 lb 2000 lb 21850 lb
Pylon:fuselage 2 2262 USgal   437 gal 437 gal 437 gal 21850 lb/@ 3700.lbs
Pylon:wings (dry)   2000 lb 2000 lb 6000 lb 6500 lb 3000.lbs
Weight: MTOW 30000 lb 39000 lb 39000 lb 39000 lb   38077.lb

DETAILED AAC SPECIFICATIONS

Aircraft.ID                      
Aircraft.NAME                      
DETAILS                      
Category                      
Genre     Seaplane                
Sub-Genre     Vintage                
Carrier.Capable     YES/NO                
Launch=No.catap     YES/NO -              
Propulsion:     Piston Jet Turbine Rocket          
SPECIFICATIONS                    
Length     metre or Imp 0.00m              
Span     metre or Imp 0.00m              
Height     metre or Imp 0.00m              
Speed:rotation     knot:F351.0

000.kn

             
Speed:takeoff     knot:F351.2

000.kn

             
Speed:max     knot

000.kn

             
Speed:cruise     knot 000.kn              
Speed:stall/F00     knot 00.kn              
Speed:stall/F15     knot 00.kn              
Speed:stall/F35     knot 00.kn              
Speed:approach     knot:F351.4 00.kn              
Speed:landing     knot 00.kn              
Climb.rate     feet/minute 0000.ft/m              
Ceiling     feet 0000.ft              
TakeOff.Run     metre 000.m              
LandingRun Brakes   metre 000.m              
LaindingRun Reverse   metre -              
LaindingRun Chute   metre -              
EQUIPMENT                    
Avionics:Radar     ID                
Avionics:IRST     ID                
Avionics:Warning     ID                
Engine-1.ID     ID ID              
Engine-1.Nbr   Q Total 1              
Engine-1.Pwr.Max Military   hp or lbf 0.hp              
Engine-1.Pwr.Xtra Afterbrn   hp or lbf 0.hp              
Engine:Propeller Diam   metre or Imp 0.00m              
Engine:Propeller Blades   number 1              
Engine-1:SFC1 Mass   lbs/hr*hp 0.000              
Engine-1:SFC2 Volume   gal/hr*lbf 0.000              
Engine-1:SFC1 Mass   lbs/hr*hp -              
Engine-1:SFC2 Volume   gal/hr*lbf -              
Engine-1:Reverse     YES/NO                
IFR:boom Fixed   YES/NO                
IFR:boom Retract   YES/NO                
IFR:receptacle     YES/NO                
IFR:receptacle Doors   YES/NO                
Air.Brakes     YES/NO                
Flaps     YES/NO                
Landing.Gear     YES/NO                
Landing.Gear Retract   YES/NO                
Arresting.Hook     YES/NO                
Brake.Chute     YES/NO                
Powered.Wingfold     YES/NO                
Canopy.Opening InFlight   YES/NO                
Navigation.Lights     YES/NO YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Fire.Extinguisers Engines   YES/NO                
Bomb/Cargo.Doors     YES/NO                
Search.Light     YES/NO                
Egress.Procedure     Eject/Bail                
INTERNAL WEAPONS                    
Recce.Pack Inbuilt   YES/NO                
Guns:fwd.firing/T1 cal Q Gun.ID                
Guns:fwd.firing/T2 cal Q Gun.ID                
Guns:fwd.firing/T3 cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Nose cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Dorsal cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Ventral cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Waist cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Tail cal Q Gun.ID                
FFAR ID   FFAR.ID                
FUEL:INTERNAL                    
Fuel:Internal Std   Imp.Gal                
Fuel:Internal Extra   Imp.Gal                
WEIGHTS & LOADS                    
Weight:Empty     lb                
Crew: 200 lb/@ Q lb                
Fuel:Internal 0000.gal 7.6 lb                
Guns:fwd.firing/T1 000.rpg Q lb                
Guns:fwd.firing/T2 000.rpg Q lb                
Guns:fwd.firing/T3 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Nose 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Dorsal 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Ventral 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Waist 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Tail 000.rpg Q lb                
FFAR Q Q lb                
Payload:Internal     lb                
Pylon:Wing Tip port T1                
HVAR:   port R1 R3 R5 R7                
Pylon:Wing Outer port W5                
Pylon:Wing Central port W3                
Pylon:Wing Inner port W1                
Pylon:Fuselage Outer port F3                
Pylon:Fuselage Inner port F1                
Pylon:Fuselage Central   F0                
Pylon:Fuselage Inner stb F2                
Pylon:Fuselage Outer stb F4                
Pylon:Wing Inner stb W2                
Pylon:Wing Central stb W4                
Pylon:Wing Outer stb W6                
HVAR:   stb R2 R4 R6 R8                
Pylon:Wing Tip stb T2                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Wings port B1                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel fwd BF                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel ctrl BC                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel aft BA                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Wings stb B2                
Passengers 260 lb/@ Q lb                
Weight:Total     lb                
Weight:MTOW     lb - - - - - - - -
SPECIAL LOADS                    
Weight:Empty     lb                
 
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