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GLOSTER  GL41F8  Meteor

 
     
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INTRODUCTION

UNDER CONSTRUCTION :

Country = = QTY Aircraft Name 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967
        40 GL51F1 Javelin.FAW1 1956 1957 > 1957                    
        30 GL51F2 Javelin.FAW2 1957 1961   1957 > > > 1961            
        22 GL51T3 Javelin.T3 1958 1965     1958 > > > > > > 1965    
        50 GL51F4 Javelin.FAW4 1957 1961   1957 > > > 1961            
        64 GL51F5 Javelin.FAW5 1957 1962   1957 > > > > 1962          
        33 GL51F6 Javelin.FAW6 1957 1961   1957 > > > 1961            
        142 GL51F7 Javelin.FAW7 1958 1961     1958 > > 1961            
        47 GL51F8 Javelin.FAW8 1959 1963       1959 > > > > 1963      
        (118) GL51F9 Javelin.FAW9 1960 1968         1960 > > > > > > >>
        (44) GL51F9R Javelin.FAW9R 1961 1968           1961 > > > > > >>

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Gloster also modified an F.8 into a specialized close-support configuration, with wingtip tanks and belly stores pylons. This aircraft was known as the "Reaper" or "G.44", and could carry 24 rockets or up to four 450 kilogram (1,000 pound) bombs.

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Specification and production
Mark Role Engine Thrust Weight

lbs

Speed

mph

Numbers
             
I Fighter 2 Welland 1,700 11,755 420 20
II Fighter 2 Goblin 2,700 11,755   1
III Fighter 2 Derwent I 3,500 14,460 520 210
IV Fighter 2 Derwent 5 3,500 14,460 585 465
FR5 Fighter recce 2 Derwent 5 3,500 14,460   1
F6 Fighter 2 Derwent 7 not built      
T7 Trainer 2 Derwent 8 3,500 17,600 585 642
F8 Fighter 2 Derwent 8 3,500 19,065 592 1,079
T8 Adv trainer 2 Derwent 8 3,500 19,065 592  
F(TT)8 Target tug 2 Derwent 8 3,500 19,065 590  
FR9 Fighter recce 2 Derwent 8 3,500 15,770 592 126
PR10 Photo recce 2 Derwent 8 3,500 15,400 541 59
NF11 Night fighter 2 Derwent 8 3,700 19,790 541 338
NF12 Night fighter 2 Derwent 9 3,800 20,380 541 100
NF13 Night fighter 2 Derwent 8 3,700 20,490 541 40
NF14 Night fighter 2 Derwent 8 3,700 20,444 576 100
NF(T)14 Nav trainer 2 Derwent 8 3,700 20,000 576  
U15 Target drone 2 Derwent 5 3,500 14,250 585 92*
U16 Target drone 2 Derwent 8 3,700 19,000 590 150+
D16 Target drone U16 redesignated        
T17 Ej seat test 2 Derwent 8 3,500     2#
TT20 Target tug 2 Derwent 8 3,700 19,750 541 49~
U21 Target drone 2 Derwent 8 3,500     22+

Notes

* F4 conversions
+ F8 conversions
# T7 conversions
~ NF11 conversions

Meteor F1 F3 F4 F8 FR9 FR10 T7 NF11 NF12 NF13 NF14
Gloster Ref. G41A G41C G41F G41K G41L G41M G43 G47 G47 G47 G47
Production 20 210 753 1550 126 59 712 331 100 40 100
Crew 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2
Radar // // // // // // // AI.10 APS21 AI.10 APQ43
Length 41'03" 41'03" 41'03" 44'07" 44'07" 44'07" 43'06" 46'06" 46'00" 44'07" 51'04"
Span 43'00" 43'00" 37'02" 37'02" 37'02" 43'00" 37'02" 43'00" 43'00" 43'00" 43'00"
Height 13'00" 13'00" 13'00" 13'00" 13'00" 13'00" 13'00" 13'00" 13'00" 13'00" 13'11"
Wings/ft² 374.ft² 374.ft² 350.ft² 350.ft² 350.ft² 374.ft² 350.ft² 374.ft² 374.ft² 374.ft² 374.ft²
Guns:cal 4×20mm 4×20mm 4×20mm 4×20mm 4×20mm // // 4×20mm 4×20mm 4×20mm 4×20mm
Guns:rpg 200.rpg 200.rpg 200.rpg 200.rpg 200.rpg // // 160.rpg 160.rpg 160.rpg 160.rpg
Camera(s) // // // // 1 1+2 // // // // //
Meteor F1 F3 F4 F8 FR9 FR10 T7 NF11 NF12 NF13 NF14
Engine:×2 W2B Dwt-1 Dwt-5 Dwt-8 Dwt-8 Dwt-8 Dwt-5 Dwt-8 Dwt-9 Dwt-8b Dwt-9
Power:dry 1700.lbf 2000.lbf 3500.lbf 3600.lbf 3600.lbf 3600.lbf 3500.lbf 3600.lbf 3800.lbf 3700.lbf 3800.lbf
Speed:Mx 355.kn 430.kn 505.kn 514.kn 514.kn 514.kn 505.kn 480.kn 508.kn .kn 585.kn
Ceiling 40000.ft 44000.ft 40000.ft 43000.ft 43000.ft 43000.ft 40000.ft 40000.ft 40000.ft .ft 43000.ft
Weight:empty 8140.lb 8810.lb 11220.lb 10685.lb .lb .lb .lb 12020.lb 12290.lb .lb 12620.lb
Weight:MTO 13800.lb 13300.lb 14550.lb 15700.lb .lb .lb .lb 20035.lb 20380.lb .lb 21200.lb
Production 20 210 535 1183 126 59 650 ?... ?... ?... ?...
Bombs // // 2×1000lb 2×1000lb // // // // // // //
HVAR // // 8×HVAR 8×HVAR // // // // // // //
Meteor F1 F3 F4 F8 FR9 FR10 T7 NF11 NF12 NF13 NF14
Fuel:internal 300.gal 325.gal 325.gal 420.gal 420.gal 420.gal 325.gal 325.gal 325.gal 325.gal 325.gal
Range 475.nm 690.nm 790.nm 890.nm 890.nm 890.nm 790.nm 690.nm 690.nm 690.nm 690.nm
Fuel:belly (fixed) 105.gal 105.gal 145.gal 175.gal 175.gal 175.gal 145.gal 175.gal 175.gal 175.gal 175.gal
Range 594.nm 860.nm 940.nm 1040.nm 1040.nm 1040.nm 940.nm 875.nm 875.nm 875.nm 875.nm
Fuel:pylons // // 2×85.gal 2×100.gal 2×100.gal 2×85.gal 2×85.gal 2×100.gal 2×100.gal 2×100.gal 2×100.gal
Range // // 1170.nm 1290.nm 1290.nm 1290.nm 1170.nm 1120.nm 1120.nm 1120.nm 1120.nm

General Specifications

Aircraft.ID                      
Aircraft.NAME                      
DETAILS                      
Category                      
Genre     Seaplane                
Sub-Genre     Vintage                
Carrier.Capable     YES/NO                
Launch=No.catap     YES/NO -              
Propulsion:     Piston Jet Turbine Rocket          
SPECIFICATIONS                    
Length     metre or Imp 0.00m              
Span     metre or Imp 0.00m              
Height     metre or Imp 0.00m              
Speed:rotation     knot:F15*1.0

000.kn

             
Speed:takeoff     knot:F35*1.2

000.kn

             
Speed:max     knot

000.kn

             
Speed:cruise     knot 000.kn              
Speed:stall/F00     knot 00.kn              
Speed:stall/F15     knot 00.kn              
Speed:stall/F35     knot 00.kn              
Speed:approach     knot:F35*1.4 00.kn              
Speed:landing     knot 00.kn              
Climb.rate     feet/minute 0000.ft/m              
Ceiling     feet 0000.ft              
TakeOff.Run     metre 000.m              
LandingRun Brakes   metre 000.m              
LaindingRun Reverse   metre -              
LaindingRun Chute   metre -              
EQUIPMENT                    
Avionics:Radar     ID                
Avionics:IRST     ID                
Avionics:Warning     ID                
Engine-1.ID     ID ID              
Engine-1.Nbr   Q Total 1              
Engine-1.Pwr.Max Military   hp or lbf 0.hp              
Engine-1.Pwr.Xtra Afterbrn   hp or lbf 0.hp              
Engine:Propeller Diam   metre or Imp 0.00m              
Engine:Propeller Blades   number 1              
Engine-1:SFC1 Mass   lbs/hr*hp 0.000              
Engine-1:SFC2 Volume   gal/hr*lbf 0.000              
Engine-1:SFC1 Mass   lbs/hr*hp -              
Engine-1:SFC2 Volume   gal/hr*lbf -              
Engine-1:Reverse     YES/NO                
IFR:boom Fixed   YES/NO                
IFR:boom Retract   YES/NO                
IFR:receptacle     YES/NO                
IFR:receptacle Doors   YES/NO                
Air.Brakes     YES/NO                
Flaps     YES/NO                
Landing.Gear     YES/NO                
Landing.Gear Retract   YES/NO                
Arresting.Hook     YES/NO                
Brake.Chute     YES/NO                
Powered.Wingfold     YES/NO                
Canopy.Opening InFlight   YES/NO                
Navigation.Lights     YES/NO YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Fire.Extinguisers Engines   YES/NO                
Bomb/Cargo.Doors     YES/NO                
Search.Light     YES/NO                
Egress.Procedure     Eject/Bail                
INTERNAL WEAPONS                    
Recce.Pack Inbuilt   YES/NO                
Guns:fwd.firing/T1 cal Q Gun.ID                
Guns:fwd.firing/T2 cal Q Gun.ID                
Guns:fwd.firing/T3 cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Nose cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Dorsal cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Ventral cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Waist cal Q Gun.ID                
Gun.Turret:Tail cal Q Gun.ID                
FFAR ID   FFAR.ID                
FUEL:INTERNAL                    
Fuel:Internal Std   Imp.Gal                
Fuel:Internal Extra   Imp.Gal                
WEIGHTS & LOADS                    
Weight:Empty     lb                
Crew: 200 lb/@ Q lb                
Fuel:Internal 0000.gal ×7.6 lb                
Guns:fwd.firing/T1 000.rpg Q lb                
Guns:fwd.firing/T2 000.rpg Q lb                
Guns:fwd.firing/T3 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Nose 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Dorsal 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Ventral 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Waist 000.rpg Q lb                
Gun.Turret:Tail 000.rpg Q lb                
FFAR Q Q lb                
Payload:Internal     lb                
Pylon:Wing Tip port T1                
HVAR:   port R1 R3 R5 R7                
Pylon:Wing Outer port W5                
Pylon:Wing Central port W3                
Pylon:Wing Inner port W1                
Pylon:Fuselage Outer port F3                
Pylon:Fuselage Inner port F1                
Pylon:Fuselage Central   F0                
Pylon:Fuselage Inner stb F2                
Pylon:Fuselage Outer stb F4                
Pylon:Wing Inner stb W2                
Pylon:Wing Central stb W4                
Pylon:Wing Outer stb W6                
HVAR:   stb R2 R4 R6 R8                
Pylon:Wing Tip stb T2                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Wings port B1                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel fwd BF                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel ctrl BC                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel aft BA                
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Wings stb B2                
Passengers 260 lb/@ Q lb                
Weight:Total     lb                
Weight:MTOW     lb - - - - - - - -
SPECIAL LOADS                    
Weight:Empty     lb                

PBM-5S 2253 gal fuel capacity is based on BuAer drawings showing 2702 US gal (+   786 US gal in bomb bay cells).
P5M2    2342 gal fuel capacity is based on BuAer drawings showing 2809 US gal (+ 1160 US gal in bomb bay cells)
SFC is then based upon these factors.  Cruise power and fuel weight ratios are AAC's standard (see: Measurements)

PBM5   : 2100hp × 2 × 66% × 0.34lb/hp/hr × [2362Nm÷130Kn=18.1669 hr] = 17122 lb ÷7.6lb/gal = 2253 gal (revised)

P5M2   : 3400hp × 2 × 66% × 0.29lb/hp/hr × [2070Nm÷151Kn=13.6755 hr] = 17799 lb ÷7.6lb/gal = 2342 gal (revised)

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Fighters
P-40E 281 rounds per gun
P-51B&C 280 outboard 350 inboard guns
P-51D 400 inboard and 270 middle and outboard guns
P-47D 260 to 425

F6F-3 400 RPG
F4U 390 RPG

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