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MESSERSCHMITT  109  -  HA1112M Buchon

 

Bf109E3 Emil   -   Bf109T3 Träger  -   Bf109G6 Gustav

 

Avia S199-G6 Messer

  The story which didn't happen ... outside Atlantic Air Combat  
  See also:

Bf109 Additional Notes
 Bf109   - Variants
 Bf109E3 - Data Table
 Bf109G1 - Data Table
 Bf109   - Added Notes 1
 Bf109   - Added Notes 2
 Bf109   - Added Notes 3
 Bf109   - Added Notes 4
 Engines - DB600 Series

AAC Land Based Variants
 Me109E3 Emil   - Notes
 Me109G6 Gustav - Notes
 HA1112M Buchon - Notes

 Me109E3 Emil   - Datasheet
 Me109G6 Gustav - Datasheet
 HA1112M Buchon - Datasheet

AAC Carrier Based Variant
 Me109T3 Träger  - Notes
 
 

 Me109T3 Träger  - Datasheet

Illustrations
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INTRODUCTION

Bf 109 or Me 109 ?

There are often unproductive polemics about the "official" designation of this aircraft from Bayerische Flugzeugwerke which started its life under the 8-109 designation.  As outlined in an interresting article, both Bf109 and Me109 are valid and were used interchangeably at all levels within the Luftwaffe.  While Atlantic Air Combat™ will generally refer to it as the Me109, actually both designations are indifferently used on AAC pages.

Post-War Use
Country = = QTY Aircraft Name 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967

Switzeland AF FF 10 Me109D1 Dora 1939 1949                        

Switzeland AF FF 30 Me109E1 Emil 1939 1949                        

Switzeland AF FF 58 Me109E3 Emil 1939 1949

Switzeland AF FF 13 Me109G6 Gustav 1944 1947                        
Finland AF FF 49 Me109G2 Gustav 1943 1954                        
Finland AF FF 107 Me109G6 Gustav 1943 1954
Finland AF FF 3 Me109G8 Gustav 1943 1954                        
Finland AF FF 25 Me109T3 Träger 1944

Yugoslavia AF FF 61 Me109E3 Emil 1939 1945

Yugoslavia AF FF 59 Me109G Gustav 1944 1953
Czechoslovakia AF FF 21 Avia.S99 Messer 1946 1957 >> 1957                    
Czechoslovakia AF FF 23 Avia.C399 Messer 1946 1957 >> 1957
Czechoslovakia AF FF 599 Avia.S199 Messer 1947 1957 >> 1957                    
Spain AF FF 25 HA1109K1L Buchon 1947 1952                        
Spain AF TR 1 HA1110K1L Buchon 1951 1965 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1965    
Spain AF FF 40 HA1112K1L Buchon 1952 1965 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1965    
Spain AF TR 1 HA1112M4L Buchon 1954 1965 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1965    
Spain AF FF 172 HA1112M1L Buchon 1956 1965 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1965    

If most military aircrafts used by "secondary" air forces after WWII came from the victors of this infamous war, some german designs did have a post war carreer, and among them the Messerschmitt 109.   Not only did it continue to be used operationally with historical users (Switzerland, Finland), but it was even re-manufactured after the war.  First in Czechoslovakia where Avia produced above 500 Jumo 211F powered Bf109G6 as the Avia S-199, and then in Spain where Hispano reopened a production line as late as the mid fifties.  Actually, it is this late Spanish production which initially triggered the inclusion of the type in in AAC.  Naturally, by the mid sixties, the carreer of the Buchon was almost over, and the extended use of Me109 derivatives by other operators within AAC is a fantasy aimed at satisfying WW2 era aircrafts amateurs.   And we mean no more.  The Bf109 is famous, the war in which it was used was not, but for its atrocities, and those who triggered it even less...

In the summary below, the number of airframes might be incorrect.  Suggested corrections are welcome, but the purpose of this little survey must be read in the context of AAC : to identify main post war Bf109 variants and their operators.

Yugoslavia (1939 - 195+)

61 Bf109E3 - - 1939 1st  batch to the Royal Yusgoslav Air Force, probably didn't survive the war
59 Bf109G6 - - 1947 195+ 2nd batch to the Yugoslav Air Force, mixed variants, principally G6

Switzerland (1939 - 1949)

10 Bf109D1 J-301 J-310 1939 1st batch, purchased and delivered in 1939
30 Bf109E1 J-311 J-340 1939 2nd batch
50 Bf109E3 J-341 J-390 1940 1949 3rd batch, and the aircraft type operated till the end of the 1940s
13 Bf109G6 J-701 J-713 1944 1947 acquired toward the end of the war, and operated for a couple of years only
8 Bf109E3 J-392 J-399 1945 1949 assembled from spare parts after the war

Spain (1947 - 1965)

25 HA1109J1L Bf109G2 - 1947 HS12Z89 powered Bf109G2 manufactured under licence after the war
> HA1109K1L - - 1951 HS12Z17 engine change (same 25 airframes)
1 H11110K1L 1951 HS12Z17 powered trainer (two-seat)
40 HA1112K1L Bf109G2 1952 HS12Z17 powered Bf109G2 new airframes
1 HA1112M4L 1954 1965 Merlin.45 powered trainer (two-seat)
172 HA1112M1L Bf109G2 1956 1965 Merlin.45 powered Bf109G2 new airframes produced in 1956-1957

Czechoslovakia (1946 - 1957)

21 S99 - - 1946 1957 DB605 powered Bf109G6 remanufactured after the war by Avia
23 C399 - - 1946 1957 DB605 powered Bf109G12 remanufactured after the war by Avia
559 S199-G6 - - 1947 1957 Ju211F powered Bf109G6 remanufactured after the war by Avia

Finland (1943 - 1954)

30 Bf109G2 MT-201 MT-230  1943 1st batch, purchased and delivered in 1943-1944
19 Bf109G2 MT-231 MT-248 1944 2nd batch
3 Bf109G8 MT-481 MT-483 1944 reconnaissance aircrafts
80 Bf109G6 MT-401 MT-480 1944 1954 Three were high altitude Bf109G6/AS; the G6 was used operationally till 1954
27 Bf109G6 MT-484 MT-514 1944 1954 473, 474, 514 destroyed before arrival (30-3=27)
25 Bf109T3 MT-515 MT-539 1944 fictional transfer of a squadron worth of airframes when the type was retired

To these "historical" airframes, whose operational life will thus be artificially extended into the 1960s, a batch of  Bf109T will be added to the Finnish Air Force, allowing these to operate from the Swedish aircraft carriers.   Historically, these de-navalized aircrafts were stationed in Norway (JG77) at the start of the war, then on Heligoland (JG11) before moving again to Norway, at Lista.  So let's imagine that instead of all being phased out/shot down/scrapped in late 1944, some were transferred to Finland along with with the Bf109G6, and secretely re-engined/re-navalized in the late 1950s as Bf109T3 to offer Finnish Air Force pilots with a maritime experience...   Just a little fantasy making both the Irish Air Corp Seafire and the Finnish Air Force Bf109T Träger operating along side from the same deck.   Hopefully, the purists shall forgive.

Bf109 Variants in Atlantic Air Combat
   
Bf109E3
While the Swiss Air Force also operated the Bf109D1 and (briefly) a few Bf109G6, the E3 was their main variant; let's keep it that way.  Like all AAC Bf109, it's beefed up with a ventral pylon, wing pylons, and wing rails for HVAR rockets.  The same will apply to the Yugoslav E3s.
 
Bf109G6
Clearly the main variants used post war, and it will also stand for the various Avia iterations.  Some discrepences were found, especially about the amount of ammunitions available for each guns.   The quantities mentioned in Finnish Air Force Pilot's Notes are lower than what is assumed to have been the capacity of the ammunition boxes but is consistant with observations made on aircrafts shot down (275/300, and 150/200).  Since these Pilot's Notes are post-war documents, let's assume these "lower" quantities were common practice.  Regarding fuel consumption, a calculated average shall apply.
 
Bf109T3
Thus a cheat as outlined above : for the benefit of "performances", this variant has been re-engined with Volvo manufactured DB605A engines, re-gunned with Swiss weapons, and naturally re-navalized.  Like all AAC Bf109, it has a ventral pylon, wing pylons and wing rails for HVAR rockets
 
HA1112M
Hispano thus produced three batches of Messerschmitt fighters after the war, with the main one being the Merlin powered variant, armed with a pair of wing mounted 20mm Hispano cannons.  The type even fired in anger is some post colonial wars.   It will thus be the variant retained for AAC purposes.   External stores however will differ from what the Spanish Air Force used, especially as rockets are concerned as the weapons setup will be standard for all AAC Bf109 variants.

Short Comparison

Aircraft ID     Bf109E3 Bf109T3 Bf109G6 S199-G6 HA1112K HA1112M
Aircraft Name     Emil Trager Gustav - Buchon Buchon

Length

metre     8.64 8.64 8.95 8.95 8.490 8.490

Span

metre     9.87 11.08 9.92 9.92 9.92 9.92

Engine-1 ID

piston     DB601A DB605A DB605A Ju211F HS12Z17 Merlin.45

Engine-1 Pwr

max     1100.hp 1475.hp 1475.hp 1322.hp 1300.Hp 1610.hp

2× MG29/750²¹

Cowl 7.62x51   2×480.rpg ²¹2×480.rpg - - - -

2× M131/13

Cowl 13.4x84   - - º²2×250.rpg 2×300.rpg - -

1× M151/20º¹

Hub 20x82   - - º²1×130.rpg 1×200.rpg - -

2× OeFF/20²¹

Wings 20x72   2×60.rpg ²¹2×60.rpg - - - -

2× BRED/127

Wings 12.7x81   - - - - ? 2×180.rpg -

2× M151/20

Gondola 20x82   - - º²2×80.rpg 2×135.rpg - -

2× HST5/20

Gondola 20x110   - - - - - ? 2×125.rpg

Weight Empty

Historic     4189.lb 4758.lb 6167.lb     5878.lb

Weight

Empty - - 4189.lb 4758.lb 6671.lb     5878.lb

Weight

Crew - - 200.lb 200.lb 200.lb     200.lb

Ammo×2:Cowl

480rpg 7.62x51 34g 72.lb 72.lb        

Ammo×2:Cowl

250rpg 13.4x84 75g     83.lb      

Ammo×1:Hub

130rpg 20x82 183g     53.lb      

Ammo×2:Wing

60rpg 20x72 200g 53.lb 53.lb        

Ammo×2:Wing

180rpg 12.7x81 84g            

Ammo×2:Wing

125rpg 20x110 260g           143.lb

Fuel Internalº³

400L 88.1gal 7.6lb/gal 670.lb 670.lb       703.lb

Fuel Internalº³

420L 92.5gal 7.6lb/gal     703.lb     703.lb

Weight Combat

AAC     5184.lb 5753.lb 7710.lb     6924.lb

Weight Combat

Historic         7709.lb     7404.lb
Gun Gondolas¹³ 183lb/@ Empty              

Ammo×2:Gond

80gpg 20x82 183g - - 64.lb     -
        AND AND OR     AND
Ventral Pylon 1×250.kg Bomb 550.lb 550.lb 550.lb 550.lb     550.lb
OR      "         " 1×300L Fuel 550.lb 550.lb 550.lb 550.lb     550.lb
OR HVAR Rockets                  

HVAR:80mm¹²

2x8 air-to-gnd 30.lb n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 480.lb
OR

HVAR:T10

2×4   62.lb 496.lb 496.lb 496.lb     496.lb
OR

HVAR:RP3

2×3   82.lb 492.lb 492.lb 492.lb     492.lb
OR

HVAR:AR3

2×3   79.lb 474.lb 474.lb 474.lb     474.lb
OR

HVAR:AR5

2×2   141.lb 564.lb 564.lb 564.lb     564.lb
OR

HVAR:R132

2×4   50.lb 400.lb 400.lb 400.lb     n/a
OR

HVAR:R135

2×2   143.lb 572.lb 572.lb 572.lb     572.lb
OR

Heavy Rockets

                 

HVAR:WG21

2×1 AAR air-to-air 247.lb

HVAR:WG27¹¹

2×1 AGR air-to-gnd 245.lb 490.lb 490.lb 490.lb     490.lb

Weight MTOW²º

AAC     5756.lb 6325.lb 8282.lb GG GG 7496.lb

Weight MTOW

Historic     5875.lb 6303.lb 8370.lb GG GG 7404.lb

Comment on the Short Comparison Table

º¹

It seems reasonably clear that Swiss Bf109E were not equipped with a Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub.  An Oerlikon FF is added here for weight comparison purposes only - the Aircraft Data Sheet will show differently

º²

Quantities of ammunitions for the Finnish Bf109G come from a Finnish AF aircraft manual; they differ from what the litterature usually mention - shown here "as found" for comparison purposes.  The empty weight is cheated to match the published "combat weight"

º³

Fuel weight is calculated along AAC standard

¹º

Specific fuel consumption varies with sources : according to Wikipedia it's roughly 0.44 but an average calculated on data published in the Finnish Air Force Bf109 manual gives a very different reading - a figure will be adopted in the Data Sheet

¹¹

Historically, the Bf109G could be equipped with a pair of 21 cm (8 in) Wfr. Gr. 21 rockets (G-6 with BR21) aerial rocket lodged in launching tubes (total weight of the tube+rocket assembly : 247lb).  For AAC purposes, the Bf109 could be equipped with a pair of air-to-ground heavy rockets of similar weight but launched from wing pylons

¹²

The exact type of Oerlikon 80mm rocket used by the Spanish Air Force is unknown - could it be the SNORA, even if they only appeared in the 1960s and the HA1112 dates from the 1950s) - weight shown is an educated guess only

¹³

The gondola guns of the Bf109G are known to add a total weight (with ammo) of 215 kg to the aircraft

²º The last line of the table compares AAC calculated MTOW with known values, keeping discrepencies to a minimun,  notwithstanding the fantasy use of HVAR rockets, which was the purpose of the excercise.
²¹

The Bf109T is thus fictionally re-gunned with Swiss weapons

EXTERNAL WEAPONS USED IN AAC

In brief, external weapons used on the Bf109 could be described as follows:

Historical   Atlantic Air Combat™
fuselage pylon : alternative loads fuselage pylon : alternative loads
1×250kg bomb 1×250kg  bomb or 1×500lb  or 1×550lb  or 1×250lb
4×  50kg bomb 4×  50kg  bomb or 4×100lb  or 4×110lb
1×300lit. fuel 1×  66gal fuel
underwing stores - ± central position underwing pylon - ± central position : alternative stores
2×112kg air-to-air rocket (WGr21) launcher 2×250lb WG27 air-to-surface rocket (cheat)
2×HVAR air-to-surface rocket
2×250lb missile air-to-surface, IR guided
2×250lb missile air-to-air, IR guided
underwing stores - outer panel underwing stores - outer panel
n/a 2×4 HVAR air-to-surface rocket (572 lb max)

the ventral pylon is maintained in its role and weight carrying value (but applying to any bomb type : napalm, FAE, ...)

the position of the WGr21 launcher is made into a conventional pylon able to launch about everything within the same weight value, including air-to-air missiles

the outer wing panel will support HVAR laucher rails for up to 2×4 rockets (with a maximum total load of 572 lbs)

General Specifications

Aircraft.ID       Bf109E3 Bf109T3 Bf109G6 S199-G6 HA1112K HA1112M
Aircraft.NAME       Emil Träger Gustav Gustav Buchon Buchon
DETAILS            
Category       Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter
Genre     Seaplane, etc / / / / / /
Sub-Genre     Vintage Vintage Vintage Vintage Vintage Vintage Vintage
Carrier.Capable     YES/NO No Yes No No No No
Launch=No.catap     YES/NO - Yes - - - -
Propulsion:     Piston Piston Piston Piston Piston Piston Piston
SPECIFICATIONS Bf109E3 Bf109T3 Bf109G6 S199-G6 HA1112K HA1112M
Length     metre or Imp 8.64m 8.64m 8.95m 8.95m 8.49m 8.49m
Span     metre or Imp 9.87m 11.08m 9.92m 9.92m 9.92m 9.92m
Height     metre or Imp - - - - - -
Speed:rotation     knot:F15*1.0 78.kn 61.kn 78.kn     78.kn
Speed:takeoff     knot:F35*1.2 90.kn 70.kn 90.kn     90.kn
Speed:max     knot 298.kn 307.kn 350.kn     364.kn
Speed:cruise     knot 193.kn 256.kn 227.kn     216.kn
Speed:stall/F00     knot 65.kn 51.kn 65.kn     65.kn
Speed:stall/F15     knot 60.kn 47.kn 60.kn     60.kn
Speed:stall/F35     knot 55.kn 43.kn 55.kn     55.kn
Speed:approach     knot:F35*1.4 105.kn 85.kn 105.kn     105.kn
Speed:landing     knot 86.kn 67.kn 86.kn     86.kn
Climb.rate     feet/minute 2800.ft/m 3000.ft/m 3280.ft/m     5577.ft/m
Ceiling     feet 34650.ft 34450.ft 36000.ft     33500.ft
TakeOff.Run     metre 400.m 250.m 400.m     400.m
Landing Run Brakes   metre 600.m 250.m 600.m     600.m
Landing Run Reverse   metre / / / / / /
Landing Run Chute   metre / / / / / /
Range Approx   Naut.mile 356.nm 378.nm 391.nmi     413.nmi
EQUIPMENT Bf109E3 Bf109T3 Bf109G6 S199-G6 HA1112K HA1112M
Avionics:Radar     ID / / / / / /
Avionics:IRST     ID / / / / / /
Avionics:Warning     ID AN/APS13 AN/APS13 AN/APS13 AN/APS13 AN/APS13 AN/APS13
Engine-1.ID     ID DB601A DB605A DB605A Ju211F HS12Z17 Merlin.45
Engine-1.Nbr   Q Total 1 1 1 1 1 1
Engine-1.Pwr.Max Military   hp or lbf 1100.hp 1475.hp 1475.hp 1322.hp 1300.Hp 1610.hp
Engine-1.Pwr.Xtra Afterbrn   hp or lbf / / / / / /
Engine:Propeller Diam   metre or Imp 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.000 3.100
Engine:Propeller Blades   number 3 3 3 3 3 4
Engine-1:SFC1 Mass   lbs/hr*hp 0.474 0.532 0.532 0.540 0.480 0.500
Engine-1:SFC2 Volume ×0.132 gal/hr*lbf 0.063 0.070 0.070 0.071 0.063 0.066
Engine-X:Reverse     YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
IFR:boom Fixed   YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
IFR:boom Retract   YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
IFR:receptacle     YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
IFR:receptacle Doors   YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Air.Brakes     YES/NO - - - - - -
Flaps     YES/NO yes yes yes yes yes yes
Landing.Gear     YES/NO yes yes yes yes yes yes
Landing.Gear Retract   YES/NO yes yes yes yes yes yes
Arresting.Hook     YES/NO NO Yes NO NO NO NO
Brake.Chute     YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Powered.Wingfold     YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Canopy.Opening InFlight   YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Navigation.Lights     YES/NO YES YES YES YES YES YES
Fire.Extinguisers Engines   YES/NO YES YES YES YES YES YES
Bomb/Cargo.Doors     YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Search.Light     YES/NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Egress.Procedure     Eject/Bail Bail Bail Bail Bail Bail Bail
INTERNAL WEAPONS Bf109E3 Bf109T3 Bf109G6 S199-G6 HA1112K HA1112M
Recce.Pack Inbuilt   YES/NO NO Yes NO NO NO NO
Guns:fwd.firing/T1 7.5mm 2 Cowl 2×MG29 2×MG29 / / / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T2 13.4mm 2 Cowl / / 2×M131 2×M131 / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T3 20.0mm 1 Hub / / 2×M151 2×M151 / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T4 20.0mm 2 Wings OeFF/20.0mm OeFF/20.0mm / / / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T5 12.7mm 2 Wings / / / 2×Breda / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T6 20.0mm 2 Gondola / / 2×M151 2×M151 / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T7 20.0mm 2 Gondola / / / / / 2×HST5
Gun.Turret:Nose cal Q Gun.ID / / / / / /
Gun.Turret:Dorsal cal Q Gun.ID / / / / / /
Gun.Turret:Ventral cal Q Gun.ID / / / / / /
Gun.Turret:Waist cal Q Gun.ID / / / / / /
Gun.Turret:Tail cal Q Gun.ID / / / / / /
FFAR ID   FFAR.ID / / / / / /
FUEL:INTERNAL Bf109E3 Bf109T3 Bf109G6 S199-G6 HA1112K HA1112M
Fuel:Internal Std   Imp.Gal 88.1gal 88.1gal 92.5gal     92.5gal
Fuel:Internal Extra   Imp.Gal / / / / / /
WEIGHTS & LOADS Bf109E3 Bf109T3 Bf109G6 S199-G6 HA1112K HA1112M
Weight:Empty     lb 4189.lb 4758.lb 6671.lb     5878.lb
Crew: 200 lb/@ Q lb 200.lb 200.lb 200.lb     200.lb
Fuel:Internal .gal ×7.6 lb 670.lb 670.lb 703.lb     703.lb
Guns:fwd.firing/T1 480.rpg 2 Cowl 72.lb 72.lb / / / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T2 250.rpg 2 Cowl / / 83.lb 83.lb / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T3 130.rpg 1 Hub / / 53.lb 53.lb / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T4 60.rpg 2 Wings 53.lb 53.lb / / / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T5 180.rpg 2 Wings / / / / 67.lb /
Guns:fwd.firing/T6 80.rpg 2 Gondola / / 64.lb 64.lb / /
Guns:fwd.firing/T7 125.rpg 2 Gondola / / / / / 143.lb
Gun.Turret:Nose .rpg / Gun.ID / / / / / /
Gun.Turret:Dorsal .rpg / Gun.ID / / / / / /
Gun.Turret:Ventral .rpg / Gun.ID / / / / / /
Gun.Turret:Waist .rpg / Gun.ID / / / / / /
Gun.Turret:Tail .rpg / Gun.ID / / / / / /
FFAR Q Q lb / / / / / /
Weight:COMBAT AAC   lb 5184.lb 5753.lb 7774.lb .lb .lb 6924.lb
                   
Pylon:Wing Tip port T1 / / / / / /
HVAR: 2×4 port R1 R3 R5 R7 248.lb 248.lb 248.lb 248.lb 248.lb 248.lb
Pylon:Wing Outer port W5 / / / / / /
Pylon:Wing Central port W3 250.lb 250.lb 250.lb 250.lb 250.lb 250.lb
Pylon:Wing Inner port W1 / / / / / /
Pylon:Fuselage Outer port F3 / / / / / /
Pylon:Fuselage Inner port F1 / / / / / /
Pylon:Fuselage Central   F0 550.lb 550.lb 550.lb 550.lb 550.lb 550.lb
Pylon:Fuselage Inner stb F2 / / / / / /
Pylon:Fuselage Outer stb F4 / / / / / /
Pylon:Wing Inner stb W2 / / / / / /
Pylon:Wing Central stb W4 250.lb 250.lb 250.lb 250.lb 250.lb 250.lb
Pylon:Wing Outer stb W6 / / / / / /
HVAR:   stb R2 R4 R6 R8 248.lb 248.lb 248.lb 248.lb 248.lb 248.lb
Pylon:Wing Tip stb T2 / / / / / /
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Wings port B1 / / / / / /
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel fwd BF / / / / / /
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel ctrl BC / / / / / /
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Fusel aft BA / / / / / /
Bomb/Cargo.Bay Wings stb B2 / / / / / /
Passengers 260 lb/@ Q lb / / / / / /
Weight:Payload MAX   lb 691.lb 570.lb 596.lb .lb .lb 480.lb
Weight:MTOW AAC   lb 5875.lb 6303.lb .lb .lb .lb 7404.lb
Weight:MTOW Historic   lb 5875.lb 6303.lb 8370.lb .lb .lb 7404.lb
  Bf109E3 Bf109T3 Bf109G6 S199-G6 HA1112K HA1112M
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