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HEINKEL  He 177A  Greif

 
     
  The story which did happen ... outside Atlantic Air Combat  
     
  See also : Articles
 He177A Greif - Article 1
 He177A Greif - Article 2
He177B Greif
He274A Greif
Notes
 HE177C2 Griffin - a cheat AAC aircraft
 

INTRODUCTION

The Heinkel He177 Greif  had been the only real nazi heavy bomber during WWII, with a little over 1,000 manufactured during the war.  Among the various sequels of the design were the four engined He177B (often referred to as the He277), and the four engined high altitude He274 derivative produced by Farman in France, or the Atelier Aeronautique de Suresne as it would be called after the war, the aircraft itself being redesignated AAS-01 (two prototypes built, only one flown under French colors, after the war).

Only a small portion of this bomber fleet was used operationally and about 900 airframes were remaining at the end of the war, many of them brand new.  All,were scrapped.  Source : http://jagdwaffe.weebly.com/heinkel-he-177-greif.html

Country

   

QTY

Aircraft

Name

1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967

Germany

   

413

He177A3

Greif

1943 1945                        

Germany

   

565

He177A5

Greif

1944 1945                        

France

   

2

He274V1

//

1945 1953                        
He177A nbr Comment

V1-V8

8

Prototypes

A0

35

Pre-production, from EHF and ARB

A1

130

Produced at ARB only

A2

-

-

A3

413

At least 146 produced at ARB and 24 at HWO

A4

-

-

A5

565

Produced at ARB and HWO

He177B nbr Comment

V-101

1

He177A3

#535.550

-

NN+QQ

V-102

1

He177A0-V08

-

1943

-

V-103

1

He177A5,

-

-

NE+OD

V-???

1

-

-

-

-

He274

-

-

-

-

-

V1

1

France

-

1945

>> 1953

V2

1

France

-

1947

>> 1953

  He177
  A1
He177
  A3
He177
  A5
He177
  B5
He274
  01
  He177
  C2









Production 130 170 826 6 2    
Crew: main 4 4 5 6 4   V
Crew: tail 1 1 1 1 -   V
Pressurized - - - - V   V
Radar - - - FuG217 ? -   ASV19
Engines 2xDB606 2xDB606 2xDB610 4xDB603A 4xDB603S   4xDB603S
Power each 2700 hp 2700 hp 2975 hp 1850 hp 1850 hp   1850 hp
Power total 5400 hp 5400 hp 5950 hp 7400 hp 7400 hp   7400 hp
Engine SFC ? ? ? 0.474 0.474   0.400
Power loading lb/hp/hr 12.37 12.17 11.86 13.25 11.32   11.68
Length 22.00 m 22.00 m 22.00 m 22.00 m 23.80 m   22.00 m
Span 31.44 m 31.44 m 31.44 m 31.44 m 44.20 m   31.44 m
Height 6.67 m 6.67 m 6.67 m 5.50 m 5.50 m   5.50 m
Weight empty 36376 lb 36597lb 37038 lb 48018 lb 46958 lb   47000 lb
Weight MTOW 66800 lb 65698lb 70548 lb 98105 lb 83776 lb   98100 lb
Wing area 100.00 m 100.00m 100.00 m 100.00 m 142.00 m   100.00 m
Wing loading lb/m 668 lb/m 657 lb/m 705 lb/m 981 lb/m 590 lb/m   691 lb/m
Speed cruise 220 kn 220kn 205 kn 248 kn 270 kn   270 kn
Speed max 260 kn 260kn 238 kn 308 kn 313 kn   310 kn
Speed stall     73 kn 73 kn 73 kn   73 kn
Ceilling 32800 ft 32800ft 26250 ft 49210 ft 46900 ft   49200 ft
Climb rate ? ? ? 780ft/min 780ft/min   780ft/min
Range naut.mile 3023 nm 3023 nm 3240 nm 3240 nm 1857 nm    
Guns/A1 nose upper 1000.rpg 1xMG81 1xMG81 1xMG81 - 1xMG131   -
Guns/A2 nose lower 300.rpg 1xMGFF 1xMGFF 1xMG151 -  
Guns/A2 chin turret 300.rpg 4xMG131 -   4xMG131
Guns/B1 dorsal turret fwd 1000.rpg 2xMG131 2xMG131 2xMG131 2xMG151 2xMG131   (2xMG131)
Guns/B2 dorsal turret aft 1000.rpg 1xMG131 1xMG131 1xMG131 1xMG151 -   (1xMG131)
Guns/C1 ventral gondola 1000.rpg 1xMG131 1xMG131 1xMG131 1xMG151   (1xMG131)
Guns/D1 ventral turret 1000.rpg 2xMG131  
Guns/H1 tail 300.rpg 1xMG131 1xMG131 1xMG151 4xMG131 -   4xMG131

Bomb Loads

Max

          Bomb   Loads Maximum  

Bomb bay SC50

110.lb

48

    5280.lb Bomb bay 40 SW120 [_264lb/@] 10560.lb

Bomb bay SC250

550.lb

12

    6600.lb Bomb bay 16 SW250 [_550lb/@] 8800.lb

Bomb bay SC500

1100.lb

6

    6600.lb Bomb bay 6 SW500 [1100lb/@] 6600.lb

Bomb bay SC1000

2200.lb

4

    8800.lb Bomb bay 6 SW600 [1322lb/@] 7932.lb

Bomb bay SC1800

3970.lb

2

    7940.lb Bomb bay 6 M66 [2000lb/@] 12000.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 6 M118 [3000lb/@] 18000.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 16 Mk11M3 [_319lb/@] 5104.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 4 Mk30 [_646lb/@] 2584.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 8 Liferaft [_100lb/@] 800.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 2 MkXVI [1400lb/@] 2800.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 2 RbN [1750lb/@] 3500.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 1 293gal [Empty:200lb] 2427.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 1 293gal [Empty:200lb] 2427.lb

Bomb bay -

-

-

    - Bomb bay 1 365gal [Empty:250lb] 3024.lb
Bombload maximum bomb bay     13227.lb       18000.lb

Wing Pylon 400US

2802.lb

2

    - Wing pylon 2 400US [2802lb/@] 5604.lb

Wing Pylon HS-293

2200.lb

2

    4400.lb Wing pylon 2 Rb04 [1322lb/@] 2644.lb

Wing Pylon SC50

110.lb

2

    - Wing pylon 2 SW120 [_264lb/@] 528.lb

Wing Pylon SC250

550.lb

2

    4400.lb Wing pylon 2 SW250 [_550lb/@] 1100.lb

Wing Pylon SC500

1100.lb

2

    4400.lb Wing pylon 2 SW500 [1100lb/@] 2200.lb

Wing Pylon SC1000

2200.lb

2

    4400.lb Wing pylon 2 SW600 [1322lb/@] 2644.lb

Wing Pylon SC1200

2460.lb

2

    4920.lb Wing pylon 2 M66 [2000lb/@] 4000.lb

Wing Pylon SC1400

3085.lb

2

    6170.lb Wing pylon 2 M118 [3000lb/@] 6000.lb

Wing Pylon SC1600

3525.lb

2

    7050.lb Wing pylon 2 Mk11M3 [_319lb/@] 638.lb

Wing Pylon SC1800

3970.lb

2

    7940.lb Wing pylon 2 Mk30 [_646lb/@] 1292.lb

Wing Pylon SC2000

4295.lb

2

    8590.lb Wing pylon 2 MkXVI [1400lb/@] 2800.lb

Wing Pylon SC2500

5285.lb

2

    10570.lb Wing pylon 2 RbN [1750lb/@] 3500.lb
Bombload maximum wing pylons     10570.lb       6000.lb
Fuel tank 01 Fuselage fwd     334.gal 334.gal   334.gal 2538.lb
Fuel tank 02 wing port inner     136.gal 136.gal   136.gal 1034.lb
Fuel tank 03 wing stbd inner     136.gal 136.gal   136.gal 1034.lb
Fuel tank 04 fuselage fwd     330.gal 330.gal   330.gal 2508.lb
Fuel tank 05 fuselage aft     330.gal 330.gal   330.gal 2508.lb
Fuel tank 06 fuselage aff     334.gal 334.gal   334.gal 2538.lb
Fuel tank 07 wing port outer     246.gal 246.gal   246.gal 1870.lb
Fuel tank 08 wing sbd outer     246.gal 246.gal   246.gal 1870.lb
Fuel tank 09 wing port inner fwd     - 136.gal   136.gal 1034.lb
Fuel tank 10 wing stbd inner fwd     - 136.gal   136.gal 1034.lb
Fuel tank 11 wing port outer fwd     - 246.gal   246.gal 1870.lb
Fuel tank 12 wing sbd outer fwd     - 246.gal   246.gal 1870.lb
Fuel tank 00 bomb bay fwd   Extra value:

425.gal

425.gal Extra fuel cell 293.gal 2427.lb
Fuel tank 00 bomb bay ctrl   Extra value:

425.gal

425.gal Extra fuel cell 293.gal 2427.lb
Fuel tank 00 bomb bay aft    

-

  Extra fuel cell 365.gal 3024.lb
Fuel Total Internal Full Standard     2092.gal 2856.gal 10130 litres 2856.gal 21706.lb
Fuel Total Internal Extra     850.gal 850.gal   951.gal 7228.lb
Fuel Total External Extra 4x400 USgal    

-

    1336.gal 10154.lb
Fuel Total Maximum     2942.gal 3706.gal   4475.gal  









Weight & Loads Summary     He177A5 He177B5 He274A1   He177C2
Weight empty     37038 lb 48018 lb 46958 lb   47000 lb
Fuel Total Internal Full Standard     15900.lb 21706.lb 16958.lb   21700.lb
Bombload maximum bomb bay   in practice: 8800.lb 8800.lb 8800.lb in practice: 18000.lb
Bombload maximum wing pylons   in practice: 10570.lb 10570.lb - in practice: 6000.lb
    72308.lb 89094.lb 72716.lb   92700.lb
               
Weight MTOW (historical)     70548 lb 98105.lb 83776.lb   98100 lb









Weight & Loads Strategic             He177C2
Weight empty             47000 lb
Fuel Total Internal Full Standard 2856.gal           21700.lb
Fuel tank 00 Bomb bay aft 365.gal           3024.lb
Fuel Total External Extra 4x400 USgal 1336 gal         2802.lb 11220.lb
Bombload : 2RbN         - 1700.lb 3400.lb
            86344.lb
               
Weight MTOW (historical)             98100 lb
 
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